What We Hate About The FIRE Movement | MHFI 155

Doug and Carl talk about the bad parts of the FIRE movement.

• Cheap people
• Dogmatic approaches
• How the mainstream media writes about FIRE
• Lack of nuance (must we discuss the fv^%ing 4% Rule again?)
• It’s OK to work

From the listeners

• Living off $40,000/year isn’t realistic
• Credit card hacking isn’t for everyone

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1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement

Email us here: [email protected] or [email protected] 0:00 Intro 4:30 Mr. Mustache HQ - What's new? 7:50 Doug's health updates 10:38 How you can support us 14:25 Carl's number one issue with FIRE 22:31 Applying a dogmatic approach to FI 28:00 Is having a job necessarily bad? 36:20 Paying attention to details 39:04 Portrayal of FIRE in the media 43:20 The 4% rule (again) 50:30 Annoying things FI people do 53:43 Courses 59:04 Can you live on 400k a year? 1:01:09 Credit card rewards 1:02:50 Teaching teenagers a FIRE mindset 1:04:26 Shifting into decumulation 1:07:26 The ''Spending is bad'' mindset